Osmo
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Post by Osmo on Aug 27, 2012 15:09:06 GMT -5
I really like messing with PHP (and MySql of course ). I really want to get into Java because I feel like that would really help me get a greater understanding of OOP. I'm looking into getting the book Java: Head First. I heard it's really good.
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ZINC
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Post by ZINC on Aug 31, 2012 14:20:53 GMT -5
Honestly PHP is just as easy to learn as HTML. You can learn it really fast. PHP has to be harder to learn than HTML. PHP is pretty easy, I've created a social network with it and many other projects. Mysterious. What are these other projects you are referring to? Did you do anything with the social network you created? Yes, I have stopped that though and will be restarting from scratch with a new design Colin has designed me
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Post by Reverse Blade on Sept 3, 2012 23:34:02 GMT -5
C. The fact that it's limitless and fast as a fucker since it's not overcrowded by OOP and protections. Lua has also been something I've been messing around with. A lot like Python, but more easily accessed by C/C++.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2012 12:56:12 GMT -5
I'm a markup person. CSS is my absolute favorite, followed by jQuery and then HTML5. XHTML is nice too, but it's like HTML5's older brother who can't do as many tricks.
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iPokemon
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Post by iPokemon on Sept 23, 2012 13:01:41 GMT -5
PHP is by far my favorite, but javascript is a close second.
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chukk
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Post by chukk on Sept 23, 2012 20:16:55 GMT -5
A combination of CSS and HTML, CSS is super easy, where as with html it's a bit harder and more involved, I like easy but I also like a challenge.
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Bobby
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Post by Bobby on Sept 23, 2012 22:50:57 GMT -5
I've been writing PHP the longest. And a few years ago I might have told you it was my favorite. But these days it's a tough toss up between Ruby and Scala. I use them both frequently, though Ruby just a touch more. I thoroughly enjoy both though.
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Post by xcessive on Sept 24, 2012 10:10:17 GMT -5
Haskell, hands down. Although I use F#, Java and C/C++ much more regularly.
As a general response to the above: In my oppinion PHP is one of the worst languages ever to reach widespread use. As the creator of PHP said "I was really, really bad at writing parsers. I still am really bad at writing parsers."
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Bobby
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Post by Bobby on Sept 24, 2012 13:10:06 GMT -5
Haskell, hands down. Although I use F#, Java and C/C++ much more regularly. As a general response to the above: In my oppinion PHP is one of the worst languages ever to reach widespread use. As the creator of PHP said "I was really, really bad at writing parsers. I still am really bad at writing parsers." Rasmus Lerdorf, the original author of PHP, also has said: And that's true. The PHP created by Lerdorf ended in 1998 with PHP3. The co-founders of the Zend engine joined the project, as well as a dozen or more developers. PHP went from a sole-author to the open source project it is today. With PHP4 (2000) came the Zend engine, which was a complete rework of the parser. Zend brought in the critical mass that allowed PHP to become what it is today. Irregardless, whether you approve of it or not (many don't, and even as a long-time PHP developer I share many of the opinions anti-PHP people do), PHP is not the same hole it was a decade ago- let alone 15+ years ago.
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Post by xcessive on Sept 24, 2012 19:54:09 GMT -5
Haskell, hands down. Although I use F#, Java and C/C++ much more regularly. As a general response to the above: In my oppinion PHP is one of the worst languages ever to reach widespread use. As the creator of PHP said "I was really, really bad at writing parsers. I still am really bad at writing parsers." Rasmus Lerdorf, the original author of PHP, also has said: And that's true. The PHP created by Lerdorf ended in 1998 with PHP3. The co-founders of the Zend engine joined the project, as well as a dozen or more developers. PHP went from a sole-author to the open source project it is today. With PHP4 (2000) came the Zend engine, which was a complete rework of the parser. Zend brought in the critical mass that allowed PHP to become what it is today. Irregardless, whether you approve of it or not (many don't, and even as a long-time PHP developer I share many of the opinions anti-PHP people do), PHP is not the same hole it was a decade ago- let alone 15+ years ago. I know all this, and would argue that open-sourcing PHP was the simultaneous catalyst of its popularity and the death knell for any kind of cohesive design standard. I have very strong opinions on language design. I also need to use PHP near constantly in my part-time day-job. I absolutely hate it. But, it doesn't matter if you like the language or not; it doesn't matter how many people use it; it doesn't matter how low the learning curve it, its still, as I said, a poorly designed language, and hence by one of the most important metrics in academia, a 'bad' language. In fact I've noticed that all the languages you use are held in fairly low regard in terms of language design (Ruby, Scala and PHP usually get the most rap for poor language design). Having said that I personally quite like Scala (not so keen on Ruby). I think its a step in the right direction, and has already righted most of the mistakes people still seem to claim that it has made. Keep in mind that bad != useless, it just means that it could be a lot better. In fact, as you say '...even as a long-time PHP developer I share many of the opinions anti-PHP people do'. It seems as if you essentially agree with my stand-point, but cognitive dissonance is interfering with overt acceptance: "PHP is bad; I use PHP regularly. PHP isn't that bad, otherwise I wouldn't be using it. PHP isn't that bad'.
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Jordan
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Post by Jordan on Sept 28, 2012 14:05:06 GMT -5
Rasmus Lerdorf, the original author of PHP, also has said: And that's true. The PHP created by Lerdorf ended in 1998 with PHP3. The co-founders of the Zend engine joined the project, as well as a dozen or more developers. PHP went from a sole-author to the open source project it is today. With PHP4 (2000) came the Zend engine, which was a complete rework of the parser. Zend brought in the critical mass that allowed PHP to become what it is today. Irregardless, whether you approve of it or not (many don't, and even as a long-time PHP developer I share many of the opinions anti-PHP people do), PHP is not the same hole it was a decade ago- let alone 15+ years ago. I know all this, and would argue that open-sourcing PHP was the simultaneous catalyst of its popularity and the death knell for any kind of cohesive design standard. I have very strong opinions on language design. I also need to use PHP near constantly in my part-time day-job. I absolutely hate it. But, it doesn't matter if you like the language or not; it doesn't matter how many people use it; it doesn't matter how low the learning curve it, its still, as I said, a poorly designed language, and hence by one of the most important metrics in academia, a 'bad' language. In fact I've noticed that all the languages you use are held in fairly low regard in terms of language design (Ruby, Scala and PHP usually get the most rap for poor language design). Having said that I personally quite like Scala (not so keen on Ruby). I think its a step in the right direction, and has already righted most of the mistakes people still seem to claim that it has made. Keep in mind that bad != useless, it just means that it could be a lot better. In fact, as you say '...even as a long-time PHP developer I share many of the opinions anti-PHP people do'. It seems as if you essentially agree with my stand-point, but cognitive dissonance is interfering with overt acceptance: "PHP is bad; I use PHP regularly. PHP isn't that bad, otherwise I wouldn't be using it. PHP isn't that bad'. You should write a book because you're a very good writer.
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Post by dragonforum on Sept 29, 2012 21:47:39 GMT -5
CSS is the best language, for me. I have almost no experience to it but I kind of compared CSS with HTML, and found that CSS kinda is better.
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Post by Cam on Oct 5, 2012 2:14:05 GMT -5
You should write a book because you're a very good writer. I agree.
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Post by xcessive on Oct 5, 2012 6:53:12 GMT -5
CSS is the best language, for me. I have almost no experience to it but I kind of compared CSS with HTML, and found that CSS kinda is better. Please explain how you compared them, considering they do completely different and incomparable things..?
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Jordan
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Post by Jordan on Oct 5, 2012 10:11:16 GMT -5
CSS is the best language, for me. I have almost no experience to it but I kind of compared CSS with HTML, and found that CSS kinda is better. Please explain how you compared them, considering they do completely different and incomparable things..? Please explain why you expect someone who compares CSS to HTML to answer your question effectively..?
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